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Post by Pete on Dec 9, 2012 13:21:26 GMT 1
Hi Bevren. I think you'll find the music shop you refer to on the corner of Village Way was called Normans; I've posted a request for information on this shop in the Memories page if you care to take a look, but so far no one else seems to have commented! I'm afraid I don't recall Kingsons at all, unless this was later to become Robertsons. My dating for these two shops is 1965/66 . Pete There was an electrical shop in High Street called Kingsons. Had booths upstairs where you could listen to records. Also a pretty big musical instrument shop on corner of Village Way, but I can't remember the name...
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Post by Pete on Dec 8, 2012 13:24:59 GMT 1
Ok, thanks Historian. Pete Yes it was. It has also been a furniture store and a musical instrument shop.
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Post by Pete on Nov 22, 2012 20:57:06 GMT 1
Historian.... Just by way of a query - wasn't The Mistral Club originally Beckenham Ballrooms? Unless, of course, the Ballrooms couldn't really be seen as a nightclub. Pete Beckenham had The Mistrel Club that became Tites, then Lautrecs then Langtrys and now The Bridge.
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Post by Pete on Nov 22, 2012 20:50:07 GMT 1
I have only vague memories of Robertsons as I always used Normans music shop (opposite, on the corner of Village Way) or Art Nash in Penge, but yes, I do believe they had the record booths. My outstanding memory of Robertsons was drooling down the plate glass window at a brand new sunburst Fender Stratocaster - £125, way over my budget, even in those days!
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Post by Pete on Oct 19, 2012 21:10:47 GMT 1
Does anyone remember Normans, the music shop just as you turn into Village Way from Beckenham High Street? I've looked on Google Maps but can't quite work out which premises it occupied; at the time it seemed to be quite a long shop so could have occupied two of the present day shops. It's interesting to see everyone remembers Robertsons, but no one seems to have made any reference to Normans. They too, used to sell guitars, amplifiers, keyboards etc, along with all the usual sheet music etc. Thanks, Pete
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Post by Pete on Oct 19, 2012 20:44:26 GMT 1
Hi Pete. Ok, firstly, I'm not familiar with the record shop near the Crooked Billet, so I can't help on that, but I can confirm the Pawleyne Arms is further along, at the traffic lights (High Street / Croydon Rd / Green Lane). I suspect you're confusing the Pawleyne Arms with The Dewdrop, which is almost opposite the Crooked Billet on Maple Rd. I'd forgotten about the 227 turnaround by the way, I think you may be right there! Re The Fiesta... yes, I've spent many a happy hour in there! Take a look through some of my older posts, you'll find one regarding my group (The Unattached) playing at The Drum, supporting The Herd in September 1966, along with a copy of the original poster. There's some good stuff on the site if you trawl around, have fun! Pete, your right, it was the Fiesta at Clock House Bridge and I played the pintable many a time. Regarding the record shop you will have to put me right, I thought the Crooked Billet was where the 227 turned around and that was where the Pawleyne Arms was ? I bought my first Muddy Waters album from Normans. I think I was just a youngster in the 60's, just 60 myself now, 'Fish' was my nickname but we share the same first name. Still working my way through all the posts, real memory jerkers !
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Post by Pete on Oct 17, 2012 20:06:54 GMT 1
Hi Petefish (strange how similar our names are, assuming yours is Fish of course - mine is Fisk if you didn't know!). Art Nash was just behind the Pawleyne Arms on the corner of Evelina Road, in the first row of shops off Croydon Rd, Penge. I think there was another music shop in Penge but this may have come later. The other one we used (in the mid 60s) was Normans on Village Way, Beckenham. I don't recall the cafe at Kent House bridge but we did use the one on Clock House bridge - I've already added a post on here regarding that if you care to take a look - it used to be known as The Fiesta, but I think it had changed it's name by the time we used it... you couldn't beat a cup of old Maurice's watered down tea, A Whiter Shade Of Pale on the jukebox and a go on the pintable! Pete Pete, rember Art Nash but what was the record shop in Penge, got all my reggae and ska there opposite the Crooked Billet, up from the undertakers. Remember the Promt, lived in Manor View, Sainsburys car park now. We used to go to a cafe on Kent House bridge and drink Fanta. Played in a group at the Drum in a competition we were pretty awful but goof fun at 16. The group that beat us I think were Black Box Philosophy. Living in Wales now and after 30 years away I am back working in London but no wish to go back to Beckenham, just good memories ( and bad ones too !!)
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Post by Pete on Oct 17, 2012 19:47:04 GMT 1
Muffinjackson.... are you by any chance related to Rob Jackson, the drummer from Appendix, Neil's band? If not, I can put you in touch with him - he would probably be able to help you. Pete I'm doing a bit of research into a bloke called Neil Holmes. I saw his name in this link to Beckenham Junction nightclub in 1969. I think he died between 2003 and 2005. Does anyone remember him or know anything about him?
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Post by Pete on Sept 28, 2012 22:31:38 GMT 1
Didn't Appendix (Jacko's band) play there...
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Post by Pete on Sept 28, 2012 22:19:39 GMT 1
I've now had it confirmed the Trinity Youth Club was opposite the church, where the flats are now. I'd still like to know if anyone recalls another Youth Club on Sydney Road. Thanks.
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Post by Pete on Sept 28, 2012 22:05:33 GMT 1
"Double Diamond - the beer the men drink"... words from the TV advertising campaign if my memory serves me right! It didn't do much for me, just used to make me fall of me motorbike! ;D (There were no drink-driving rules in those days, before anyone takes exception!) A couple of pints of Double Diamond and a couple of whopper cheese rolls lovely jubbly!!!
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Post by Pete on Sept 28, 2012 21:51:22 GMT 1
I remember it well Mike, only too well, and it still gives me the creeps too. I had a bad experience with a teacher which didn't help, but there you go. They say things were better then, and how we were "better for this, and better for that"... true in many cases but not all.
There's quite a lot regarding Hawes Down on Friends Reunited if you if you care to take a look, including a really clear panoramic photo taken May 1961 with many of us tagged. The teachers are there too (giving the creeps yet again), but it's still a good photo.
Yes, the cane was something to be avoided at all cost, although many of us got it, including me. My earliest memory was Powell's initiation ceremony as 1st years, lining us all up outside and letting us know in no uncertain terms he was to be feared, flexing his cane in a menacing manner - and feared he was. Another memory as 1st years was the fear of getting 'The Bars'. The older boys would get the new boys, push them back against the railings near the toilets, pull their arms back over the railings and yank them back up around the bars... that hurt! Somehow I got away with this - maybe it was my 6' 4" mate who was never far away! The best days of our lives? Not mine, that's for sure.
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Post by Pete on Aug 26, 2012 15:25:53 GMT 1
Of course, time certainly does fade the old memory! I should have known as I used to work at Cooter & Green's garage just up the road at Eden Park. Where was The Rising Sun then Historian??? Time seems to be playing tricks with the old memory here, as I too thought it was Elmers End. risingsunbeckenham.co.uk/166 Upper Elmers End Rd Beckenham
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Post by Pete on Aug 18, 2012 13:57:34 GMT 1
Hi, does anyone remember the Trinity Youth Club, Penge around 1966? As far as I recall it was on Lennard Road, possibly part of the Holy Trinity Church on the corner of Cator Road. However, someone suggested the Youth Club itself may have been across the road from the church, where the flats are today. We used to play there in our group, The Unattached, between 1965-67 and I would just like to be able to place where it was. Also, can anyone recall another Youth Club in Sydney Road? I know there's a Conservative Club along there and I played there too in an earlier group called The Misfits, in 1965 - apparently, we only had about 5 songs so kept playing them over and over again - probably until they threw us out! Anyway, it's the possibility of another Youth Club along here I'm interested in here... I seem to think it may have been very small. With thanks, Pete
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Post by Pete on Aug 18, 2012 13:30:21 GMT 1
Pete, the last time I looked it was a Chinese Take-Away. Thanks Historian, sorry for the late acknowlegment, I missed this. I can still recall rolling up outside there on my old BSA Gold Flash, bird on the back in a mini-skirt - all weathers, rain or shine! Great fish and chips from there, and my first introduction to Haddock & Chips, luxury dining compared to the age-old favourite Rock 'n' Six!!! Anyone remember what Rock 'n' Six was??? Ok, I'll answer this myself...! Rock 'n' Six was - a piece of Rock Salmon and six-penneth of chips. I think Rock Salmon may have been the cheap alternative to 'real' fish and chips, i.e., Cod or Haddock.
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