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Post by Val on Apr 4, 2010 10:00:44 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me when Arpley Road disappeared, I used to live there in the 50's I now live in Australia and am coming over for a visit this year. I gather Arpley road has been long gone.
Does anyone know anything else about the street? We lived at 66.
Val
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Post by peter52 on Oct 2, 2010 23:58:27 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me when Arpley Road disappeared, I used to live there in the 50's I now live in Australia and am coming over for a visit this year. I gather Arpley road has been long gone. Does anyone know anything else about the street? We lived at 66. Val I think Arpley Road disappeared at about the same time as Sainsbury's was built. |
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Post by chrisdoran on Nov 26, 2010 4:27:41 GMT 1
Arpley Road disappeared in redevelopment of the "Blenheim/Arpley" area in the early 1970s, the last entry in electoral rolls being in 1971 (published October 1970). There was a nice review of the road entitled "They Call it Friendship Street" in the Beckenham Journal, 23-Aug-1968, p2. PM me for a copy (2MB JPEG).
I'm sure a book could be written on the somewhat colourful history of this road, which at one time had a reputation as a place where policemen dared go only in pairs. Many of the houses were lodgings, with the landladies regularly chastised by Penge Council for overcrowding. Other properties included some of the junk shops for which Penge was famous; today we would call it recycling unwanted items from the richer neighbouring areas. It was one of the most neglected areas of Penge, with no electricity supply until the late 1950s when the MP applied pressure to get it installed and the Electricity Board did so only on the condition that people used it for cooking. In the middle of the street was Shaftesbury Hall, the home of the Penge branch of the London City Mission. It was bombed during WW2, with the missioner surviving by the skin of his teeth. The newspaper article tells how its WW1 war memorial was subsequently kept in the garden of one of the houses, with its own Remembrance Day services. ISTR that when the area was demolished Bromley Council promised it would be preserved. Does anyone know where it went, or at least have a list of the 86 names on it?
The point where the road turned off the High Street is now marked by Arpley Square. The houses at this point were originally named "Penge Place", not to be confused with the "big house" in what became crystal Palace Park. Further up, Arpley Road turned left into Croydon Road, but this portion was renamed Pawleyne Road (variously spelled) circa 1915.
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Post by paduard on Oct 27, 2013 18:28:01 GMT 1
I happen to have a copy of the Geographers London Atlas [can't find the copyright date] given to me a while ago by a Taxi Driver. It shows the Arpley, /Blenheim & Franklin Roads. My brother [RIP} had a few close friends in that area in the early 1950's - one;Danny Maskel, if I remember - and it was all quite a rough area.
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Post by veabea on Jan 4, 2014 7:17:48 GMT 1
My mother grew up in Arpley road and so did I till I was about 9,our little house was occupied by the one family from 1915 to about 1962, it was a very poor street if I remember rightly with a large vacant bombsite or where a building was demolished, I remember playing there as a small child. There was a corner shop too I knew as Chris's where you could buy a small glass of tizer for a penny.
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Post by peter southby on Aug 6, 2014 17:34:46 GMT 1
i lived in Pawleyne Road till 1958 and can remeber most everbody who lived in Arpley and Pawleyne roads
my grandparents lived in the same house before us No 90when gramps died in 1948 Nan moved to Croydon with her sons and daughter
my uncles and aunt{Southby}it was a happy time for my 4sisters and 1 brother also had my cousin there Jean Southby
loved the street parties ect Neighbours were friendley and had the time of day with you had a couple of shops ther Mrs Pope ran the
corner shop and the other end was Mrs Rainsburys and a little shop next door sweets ect the list is endless will put a few Names here
for rememberance.Gardener Crawley Horne Ward Denyer Baker Foy Collet two other familys were there called Southby distant relations
Mustnt for get Mr Carter ex army great story teller of the war 11. i will have to stop ther but if anyone wants information on
these roads let me Know janpete04@btinternet.com Best wishe Pete Southby
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Post by stuart glover on Sept 14, 2014 11:19:55 GMT 1
A long shot but does anyone know of the king family of penge hailing originally from arpley road in the 20s and 30s? There were 13 or so children several of whom stayed in the area?
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Post by Ron Brooker on Nov 26, 2014 19:11:24 GMT 1
Re: King family of Penge.
I wondered where Arpley Road in Penge was as checking it out from a 1901 census - house No.56 with an Alfred King, Isabella King and daughter Ethel. It appears to have been a tenement. Now I know the road has been demolished and not renamed it has saved me a journey.
Sounds like Arpley Road was the same type of road as Forster Road and Wilford Road, off Windmill Road in Croydon where there were also Kings living in the 20/30s. There is a book about those roads in Croydon which mentions the King families (might be a connection with the Kings from Penge). Unfortunately I lent my copy out and never got it back. The title is something like "Living on the edge/precipice of poverty".
Sorry, but I don't know anything about the King family as such as Isabella apparently left Alfred sometime before 1911.
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Post by Brian Saxby on Jul 15, 2016 11:04:30 GMT 1
Well we lived in Arpley Road until they knocked it down (before it fell down) and we moved to Petts Wood.
I will speak to the rest of my family and get back to you.
When are you over?
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Post by Brian Saxby on Jul 17, 2016 14:38:45 GMT 1
Sorry that my message was a few years late.....my niece who works with somebody from Penge has only just passed it across! Hope you were not too disappointed with your visit as many things have changed. Incredibly the Saxby family lived at ......number 64! Being the second youngest I only know we were there when I was born but my elder sister does remember two families by the name of Bailey and Newman. We can all recall families of the Bakers, Morris, Norris, Poole, Read, Southby, Collet and Crawley. Also the various corner shops - there was an Odeon when we were there.
The (mainly) Irish lodging houses were a bit scary as kids - apparently when they were demolished they found a gun.
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Post by Jellyhall on Jun 3, 2017 21:47:35 GMT 1
My mother, who used to live in Penge / Beckenham as a child, used to go to a school that I think was called Miss Pickering's school for young ladies. She was there before and during the 2nd world war. Does anyone know anything about this school?
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Post by Margaret Ford on Jan 8, 2018 18:54:16 GMT 1
Re: King family, Arpley Road
Interested that you knew of the Kings, I am the daughter of Ina King, one of the Arpley Road King's. Stuart, would be interested to hear what you knew about them.
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Post by veronica on Jan 21, 2018 11:33:43 GMT 1
i lived in Pawleyne Road till 1958 and can remeber most everbody who lived in Arpley and Pawleyne roads my grandparents lived in the same house before us No 90when gramps died in 1948 Nan moved to Croydon with her sons and daughter my uncles and aunt{Southby}it was a happy time for my 4sisters and 1 brother also had my cousin there Jean Southby loved the street parties ect Neighbours were friendley and had the time of day with you had a couple of shops ther Mrs Pope ran the corner shop and the other end was Mrs Rainsburys and a little shop next door sweets ect the list is endless will put a few Names here for rememberance.Gardener Crawley Horne Ward Denyer Baker Foy Collet two other familys were there called Southby distant relations Mustnt for get Mr Carter ex army great story teller of the war 11. i will have to stop ther but if anyone wants information on these roads let me Know janpete04@btinternet.com Best wishe Pete Southby |
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Post by veronica on Jan 21, 2018 11:44:37 GMT 1
Hello I have only just discovered your post. Hopefully you will read this and be able to help in my quest to find out more about my relatives who lived at 110 Pawleyne Road. My mother Winifred Booth until she married in 1946 and my uncle Tom Foye, uncle George Booth and Johnnie Booth and auntie Marie Foye then later Uncle Tom (died in about 1954?) and his wife Sis and their children Tommy and June still lived there. Your reply with any information would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by The Historian on Jan 22, 2018 18:05:35 GMT 1
i lived in Pawleyne Road till 1958 and can remeber most everbody who lived in Arpley and Pawleyne roads my grandparents lived in the same house before us No 90when gramps died in 1948 Nan moved to Croydon with her sons and daughter my uncles and aunt{Southby}it was a happy time for my 4sisters and 1 brother also had my cousin there Jean Southby loved the street parties ect Neighbours were friendley and had the time of day with you had a couple of shops ther Mrs Pope ran the corner shop and the other end was Mrs Rainsburys and a little shop next door sweets ect the list is endless will put a few Names here for rememberance.Gardener Crawley Horne Ward Denyer Baker Foy Collet two other familys were there called Southby distant relations Mustnt for get Mr Carter ex army great story teller of the war 11. i will have to stop ther but if anyone wants information on these roads let me Know janpete04@btinternet.com Best wishe Pete Southby Pete, Have you thought about joining the “In And Around Penge” site on Facebook. I’m sure someone would be able to help you. There are a few Southbys on there. Did you have an ancestor who was a fireman. |
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