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Post by The Historian on Apr 13, 2009 0:35:55 GMT 1
There is an application to build 30 flats on the site of old building.
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Post by The Historian on Apr 13, 2009 0:31:17 GMT 1
I am informed that there are new plans in the pipe-line, anyone know what they are?
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Post by The Historian on Apr 13, 2009 0:28:11 GMT 1
Another few that were missed.
Howdon Club in Stanhope Grove, Amida and the Bank ground that was there before Howdon.
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Post by The Historian on Apr 2, 2009 23:44:05 GMT 1
Has anyone got an image of The Box Bar, missed that one?
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Post by The Historian on Apr 2, 2009 23:42:27 GMT 1
Does anyone know the name of the last person to be born there?
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Post by The Historian on Apr 2, 2009 22:26:32 GMT 1
Crystal Palace Museum - Artefacts A selection of photographs of some of the artifacts saved after the Crystal Palace Fire. When: Every Mon, Sat, Sun, Bank Holiday,Boxing Day,Christmas Day,Early May Bank Holiday,Easter Monday except Scotland,Good Friday,Spring Bank Holiday,Summer Bank Holiday except Scotland 11:00 AM - 4:30 PM Venue: The Crystal Palace Museum Address: Anerley Hill, Crystal Palace, London SE19 2BA Enquiries: 020 86760700
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Post by The Historian on Apr 2, 2009 22:24:32 GMT 1
Beckenham Place Park Offers a golf course, woodland walks and an interactive water play feature. When: Daily 8:00 AM - 6:00 PM Closed Christmas Day, Boxing Day Venue: Beckenham Place Park Address: 182 Beckenham Hill Road, Beckenham BR3 1SZ Enquiries: 02086502292
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Post by The Historian on Mar 27, 2009 19:20:50 GMT 1
I have found some information about a private club that was run in the 1950s. The location of the club was in some old outbuildings that were once part of Elm Farm. The buildings were behind the Petrol Station on the right hand side just under the railway bridge, corner of Barnmead Road.
Does anyone remember it?
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Post by The Historian on Mar 22, 2009 10:23:22 GMT 1
I asked the question to the person who runs this site www.trolleybus.net/ and here is the answer.. The Route 109 was the predecessor to London Transport route 227 and was introduced by Thomas Tilling in 1914. It ran from Penge to Chislehurst Queens Head and used single deckers because of the retricted clearance at Chislehurst Water Tower as well as the railway bridges at Clock House and Shortlands. The Penge terminus was the Crooked Billet. By 1924 it was numbered 109A to run from Penge to Chislehurst. In 1926 it was renumbered 109 and extended from Chislehurst to Eltham High Street. It was renumbered 227 in 1934 and the route number 109 remained unused then until it was used for a tram replacement route in 1951. The photograph is very interesting as it shows LT1188 operating route 109D (the letter suffixes were used for short workings but I have not traced a record of this specific one). The 109 and later the 227 were mainly the province of Bromley Garage (TB). The photograph shows the bus is allocated to Elmers End (ED) Garage and it is in the livery of the London General Omnibus Company, which ceased to exist in 1933. LT1188 was delivered new to Elmers End Garage in October 1931 and remained there working the 109 and then the 227 until May 1951. The Water Tower at Chislehurst was a severe restriction on the route and a special built of T class 4-wheel buses was delivered in 1932 to work the 109 because of this. Therefore I think that the 109D was probably Penge Crooked Billet to Bromley as the larger 6-wheel LT class probably could not pass through the arch at that time. The photograph definitely appears to be at a terminus because the bus is unstaffed and also there is a traditional water can in the corner for topping up radiators! It does not fit with anywhere I can recognise in Bromley so I suggest it is the Penge terminus and the driver has not changed the destination blind for its next journey. As to dates, we can pin that down pretty closely if that would help to identify the location. The bus was new in October 1931 and the LGOC ceased to exist with the creation of the London Passenger Transport Board in July 1933. Looking closely at the photograph, the bus carries the legal owners name (in full) of LGOC Ltd.. Even if buses could not be repainted immediately into the new LPTB livery, the police required the legal owners name to be correct so all of these would have been changed to LPTB within a week or so of 1st July 1933. The use of LT class was rare because Elmers End Garage received extra 4-wheel T class buses in 1932 for the route 109. This adds to my view that the 109D was a peak hour short working restricted to the western end of the route (Bromley to Penge, Crooked Billet). The bus looks in reasonable condition although some driver is going to have trouble over the dented mudgard. It is probably not taken in the first few weeks of service. My conclusion (although I do not have access to historic photographs of the area) would be that it is taken at the Crooked Billet terminus some time between December 1931 and July 1933. Hope this helps with the research. I believe other bus routes used the Crooked Billet so you may find other photographs with a better view of the pub. The other terminus from memory was Penge, Pawlayne Arms but I do not think this was used by the 109/227.
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 9:14:23 GMT 1
Bethlem Royal Hospital Archives and Museum Housing art and historical collections. When: Open all year Mon - Fri 9:30 AM - 4:30 PM Venue: Bethlem Royal Hospital Archives, Museum and Gallery Address: Monks Orchard Road, Bethlem Royal Hospital, Beckenham BR3 3BX Bookings: 020 32284227 Enquiries: 020 32284307
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 9:12:18 GMT 1
Dinosaur Park
The recently restored dinosaurs were the first life sized replicas ever built. When: Daily 7:30 AM - 6:00 PM Closed Boxing Day, Christmas Day, New Year's Day Venue: Crystal Palace Park Address: Crystal Palace, Bromley SE19 2BB
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 9:03:14 GMT 1
Family History Advisory Sessions When: Every Wed 9:30 AM - 12:00 PM Venue: Beckenham Library Address: Beckenham Road, Beckenham BR3 4PE Enquiries: 020 8650 7292
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 9:02:04 GMT 1
Book Appreciation Group Reading group for adults wanting to read something different and meet other readers. When: Every Final Wed Of the Month 6:30 PM - 7:30 PM Venue: Beckenham Library Address: Beckenham Road, Beckenham BR3 4PE Enquiries: 020 8650 7292
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 8:50:58 GMT 1
The Friends of Beckenham Place Park
Membership
Membership covers postage, production and distribution of a quarterly newsletter to members and contributes toward any costs in running the Visitor Centre which is run by unpaid volunteers. Events are free to anyone and membership also expresses your wish to preserve and conserve this regionally important open space.
Individual membership £3.00
Family Membership £5.50
Concession Membership (students/unwaged) £2.00
E-membership (free), if you support our aims and want to see open space conserved and protected email us your name, address, and email address. Events and newsletters will be available through the friends web site.
Contact
email us at bpp.friends@ntlworld.com
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Post by The Historian on Mar 20, 2009 8:48:20 GMT 1
Bluebell Walk :
Saturday 18th April 2009 : 2pm start from the Mansion Steps, led by Nick Bertrand, a knowledgeable botanist who will point out other species as well as the bluebell. email: bpp.friends@ntlworld.com if you need more information.
Children welcome but must be accompanied by a carer. Dogs are welcome if kept under control. Members and non-members welcome to all events.
Talk about environment, flora, fauna, conservation, history, geology and attempt to answer any questions.
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