Bakery on Beckenham Road - 1930s?

[Pete]

Hi, does anyone know of a bakery (shop) on Beckenham Road between Mackenzie Road and Birkbeck Road that existed in the 1930s?
Thanks.
Pete

[The Historian]

There was a bakers called Logans Retail Trades LTD Bakers, that was on the corner of Mackenzie Rd. This was from the 1938 street directory. Rudlands and northams were there then, there was also a wine merchants in the same shop as the one today.

If you go to The Clockhouse images on this site you will see that there was a Bakers called Hobbins there in the early 1900s and another bakers there in 1920.

[Pete]

Thanks Historian, just what I needed. My father used to work there after he left the David Greig company (Brixton and Herne Hill branches), so definitely during the mid 1930s.
I'm taking a look at the photos as we speak.
Pete

Nov 26, 2011 20:34:50 GMT 1 The Historian said:

There was a bakers called Logans Retail Trades LTD Bakers, that was on the corner of Mackenzie Rd. This was from the 1938 street directory. Rudlands and northams were there then, there was also a wine merchants in the same shop as the one today.

If you go to The Clockhouse images on this site you will see that there was a Bakers called Hobbins there in the early 1900s and another bakers there in 1920.

[chrisdoran]

Just in case anyone really wants to know. From directories to hand:-

As 1 The Promenade, Beckenham Rd:
1898-1902 George J Ribbens, baker & confectioner
1903 F H Stanwell, baker & confectioner
1904 E T Jobbins, baker & confectioner
As 243 Beckenham Rd:
1909-31 E Thomas Jobbins, baker & confectioner
1933-35 Peter Logan, baker
1936 omitted from directory
1937-39 Logan's Retail Trades Ltd, bakers
1941-53 Logan's, bakers & caterers
1969-2011 H S Walsh & Son, clock & jewellery makers

In the absence of post-war street directories, I have not been able to determine was at No 243 from 1954 to 1968. If anyone can provide a name, I'll look at the 'phone books. H S Walsh & Son moved to Biggin Hill in April and it is currently awaiting a buyer.

[Pete]

Thanks Chrisdoran.
Yes, from the dates we now have it's most likely to have been Logans, where my father worked.

[paduard]

My friend Eric used to work there part time [1951 if I remember] – and he invited me to go there where I was treated with a roll, loads of butter, and fresh ham. Have never forgotten that treat. If I recall any other detail will post further.

[paduard]

Jun 9, 2014 19:28:13 GMT 1 paduard said:

My friend Eric used to work there part time [1951 if I remember] – and he invited me to go there where I was treated with a roll, loads of butter, and fresh ham. Have never forgotten that treat. If I recall any other detail will post further.

Further to more info. to follow, my friend Eric used to work for the Co-op; and not Logans.

paduard

[paduard]

As it has come to my notice that the main Co-op Bakery Unit was sited in a building just behind the 50 bob Tailors. My uncle Jack was the master baker in charge of that establishment. When I get time I will post more details on the other topic covering bread shops in the Beckenham Road.

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I have duplicated my remarks on the 50 Bob Tailor topic (see above), so as not to confuse the allied subject of the Co-op outlets [still getting details together]

paduard

[paduard]

Further to my comments regarding the Co-op in Penge/Anerley, from what my family can remember the main Co-op General Store was situated immediately past the 50Bob Tailors and before the Cinema. That is on the right hand side at the start of the Beckenham Road. As I indicated previously the main Bakery was situated in a building immediately behind the tailor shop. It adjoined the main store but we do not know whether there was any direct access from one part to another. It seems most likely that the actual bakery serviced many of the bread shops etc. in the locality of Penge/Anerley.
Regarding the main Co-op store itself, we know for certain that it contained various other functions e.g. my father attended their Dentist (which was on the premises) and had his teeth taken out. They also supplied dentures etc. Whether my friend Eric used the same facility I do not know, but he had a complete set of upper and lower dentures; much to the amusement of my father for that happening to such a young man.
The Co-op ordinary bakery was situated in a shop immediately opposite the General Store – i.e. on the opposite side of the road. Walking on the ‘left’ hand side of the road as you looked up towards Beckenham. My sister assures me that it also included a Butchery. All in the one shop – so you could purchase bread and then meat on adjacent counters. That ties up with Eric offering me ham with the buttered rolls – which I clearly remember personally.
My comments do not relate or refer to any other bread shops in the vicinity.
If anything more comes to mind I will put it on here.
paduard

[Pete]

Jul 31, 2015 16:50:42 GMT 1 paduard said:

Further to my comments regarding the Co-op in Penge/Anerley, from what my family can remember the main Co-op General Store was situated immediately past the 50Bob Tailors and before the Cinema. That is on the right hand side at the start of the Beckenham Road. As I indicated previously the main Bakery was situated in a building immediately behind the tailor shop. It adjoined the main store but we do not know whether there was any direct access from one part to another. It seems most likely that the actual bakery serviced many of the bread shops etc. in the locality of Penge/Anerley.
Regarding the main Co-op store itself, we know for certain that it contained various other functions e.g. my father attended their Dentist (which was on the premises) and had his teeth taken out. They also supplied dentures etc. Whether my friend Eric used the same facility I do not know, but he had a complete set of upper and lower dentures; much to the amusement of my father for that happening to such a young man.
The Co-op ordinary bakery was situated in a shop immediately opposite the General Store – i.e. on the opposite side of the road. Walking on the ‘left’ hand side of the road as you looked up towards Beckenham. My sister assures me that it also included a Butchery. All in the one shop – so you could purchase bread and then meat on adjacent counters. That ties up with Eric offering me ham with the buttered rolls – which I clearly remember personally.
My comments do not relate or refer to any other bread shops in the vicinity.
If anything more comes to mind I will put it on here.
paduard

Hi Paduard.
I'm so sorry for the late response to all your new info, I got a bit waylaid this year and my time just hasn't been my own.
Aside from everything else, your comments regarding Eric are especially interesting to me as my father had a friend by the same name.... I think we have a photo somewhere so I'll try and find it... I wonder if it could be the same chap, given they worked in the same vicinity?
Leave that with me.
Meanwhile, thanks for adding to the thread, all these little bits add to the overall history of Beckenham being kept alive.
Pete